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When will Germany stop KILLING and DISGUSTING people by allowing public smoking? |
Travel Info I'll put this in "Berlin" in case anyone there (or elsewhere) can give a serious answer to a serious question This country is INSANE, allowing smokers virtually everywhere. Businesses are losing MORE customers than they will ever have by continuing to tolerate smoking ADDICTS ruining other people's meals. Most people I know don't even eat out because of this. Mothers and fathers think NOTHING of feeding their filthy ADDICTIVE habit in the presence of their kids, even infants! WHO is going to intervene, and WHEN? There is no doubt in my mind that CRACK ADDICTS kill FAR less people than weak-willed and selfish smokers ever will! WAKE UP, Germany!!! Even other EUROPEANS were disgusted when they visited the World Cup here. The amount of smoking is barbaric and NEVER takes the rights of the non-smoking MAJORITY (although sometimes I wonder) into consideration. Aren't any EXTREMELY strict laws forthcoming regarding this addictive insanity? And the morons even use the country as an ashtray! Travel Tips Hi from D眉sseldorf, Germany. I do not know where in Germany you have been, but I as a German must say that you are totally wrong. I will explain: I assume you (like most of North-American tourists) visited Bavaria (like Munich etc.) or Berlin or Cologne. But - THIS is not Germany. It is like I would say: "America is a country of gamblers and everybody wastes his money" because I visited Las Vegas. Las Vegas is not the States, right? Those tourist places are very different to the "real" Germany. We are very very tolerant people because we've learned from our own history, and in restaurants we do allow smoking - of course we do - because in most places we have separate smoking and non-smoking sections. So - what the heck is wrong with it? Regarding us Germans, using our country as an ashtray... also nonsense. It is strictly forbidden to snap a cigarette on the street or just to let it drop anywhere. We have regular cops, but also so called "city-cops", and it costs 20 Euros (more than 20 dollars) to pollute the country like that. Of course... morons are everywhere and there are always people who do stupid things, in my country, in your country, everywhere. But this is definatly not a reason to call all of us morons. This is really rude and intolerant. So next time visit the real Germany, no tourist places, and no, in my area (North Western part, close to Holland and Belgium), NOBODY wears leather pants, we do NOT have an Octoberfest here (it's a bavarian thing) and no, we do NOT eat Sauerkraut and Bratwurst all the time, and NO, we are NOT intolerant but allow everybody his own freedom, in hope that he/she will use it respectfully. Auf Wiedersehen! Others What about the smokers rights? Drinking is just as addictive and people all over Germany drink. And before you say their drinking doesn't affect me like second hand smoke, look up how many fatal car crashes were caused this year alone by drunk drivers. People in general need to be more tolerant and respectful of others rights. (smokers and non-smokers alike) I totally agree. People have the RIGHT to smoke *themselves* to death-- nobody else. Public air is just that-- PUBLIC. No one has the right to foul it up for others. They can exercise their rights to be stupid in their own PRIVATE space, and nowhere else. The rights of anyone stop on the threshold of stepping upon those of another. With everything we know and continue to discover every day about nicotine addiction, it's such a wonder that any human being in the civilized world still smokes today. Yes I know what you mean. I was in Germany last year and found it very hard to take...especially when going out to dinner. Some restaurants have smoke free zones (which is pointless because the people sitting at the table next to you, puffing away...are in the smoking zone). Trains are great though, because they have smoke free carriages.....ahhhh, thats why they were blissfully empty at times!). Maybe its a Government plot...a form of population control...because they will all die prematurely of cancer etc.? (but thats silly too because it costs the health system billions of dollars because of increased diseases accociated with smoking). That`s what I love about germany...it`s a free country. what to say about that. It is right, that it people allowed to smoke nearly everywhere they want, but for example it is forbidden in public places, like schools, administrative buildings, hospitals, and so on. at the moment the are discussing about a law to protect children by forbidding adults to smoke in front of their children. A little bit crazy to make a law about that. There麓s also a discussion that restaurants, pubs and so on should become smoke-free. I think it is just a matter of time! A lot of people are against that rules and laws, because it is first something completly different and second a kind of cutting their self-destemination. Its a slow progress and only strange for people not living here. For us it is a completly different feeling to go into a pub in an other country where no smokers are... Oi! Watch your language!! I don't like being called an insane moron! And we don't allow smoking everywhere! In restaurants and bars there is a shut off place for smokers, in train station smoking is entirely prohibited and people from Russia, Kasachstan, Mexico, Spain, France, Scotland and other countries told me they were surprised how few people actually smoke compared to their own country! And no one complained during or after World Cup! Do your research!!!! And, by the way, I am a german non-smoker! Ps: we have a population of 80 Million people and only almost 20 million are smokers. How is the ratio in your country??? |
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