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War failed, peace failed? How to end the conflict? |
Travel Info If the Palestinians undoubtedly believe that Palestine for them and Israelis are certain God has donated this land to them! How to end the conflict? ************* Hi moneymaker, thanks for your nice answer, you told me that I insulted the Israelis IQ鈥? Olmert is my example? You read what he said yesterday!!!!!!?????. Also, I want you to go back to your answer "question of the land of Palestine" and read it again, and tell me where the answer is exactly, I am not criticizing, but really you have not write any thing useful, you need more practice in (( arguing)) as you call it. ************* Hay love the neighbor, thank u for being so nice in your answers!!!!!! But something draws my attention in your last answer, you said """you want to live in Palestine or you want to make fun of """" Well, you are not doing me a favor by allowing me to stay in my country; it is my country, my father country, I born there and I will die there. The other thing, do you think it is funny to talk about hundreds of people killed by Israel, funny to talk about ten million Palestinians rights, funny to talk about bloody massacres and daily bloodbaths don by Israel鈥︹€? Travel Tips how to end it? one side has to give up, and make way for the other. but both sides will never do that. since Israelis have generally been there less than 70 years, it would make sense for them to relocate. Others Somehow end all Religion. It's the only way. Which means it's impossible, in the short term. This is a long-long term peace process. Ania(three people down) - how is it not a Religious issue. Both groups want to occupy Jerusalem... And Let me think real hard as to why!?... maybe it's because the grass grows really green there!! Maybe some of the people that live there are happy to be together and holding hands. But they are not the ones fighting, are they? The ones who are fighting do so based on religion, they want it all to themselves. Hi Ahmad. I got rid of what I said previously because there isn't enough space. Thanks Motti. Ahmad, you said : "Moneymaker, as I told you before, if it happed or not, if they are six million or six thousand, that will not change anything in the Palestinian issue" Right, it won't change Palestinian issue, so why do you even participate in this subject? One of the topics you started was regarding that issue, and was removed by the Yahoo admins due to its hateful content. You said : "I am quarrelling with you here because you and the Israelis are considering Palestine as a compensation for the holocaust" That isn't true Ahmad, but its OK, they probably told you that it is. You see, Jews started massively moving back to Israel(or as you would call it Palestine) in the end of 19th century. In other word waay before the Holocaust. At the beginning of the 20th century, there already were Jewish cities built in Israel. Jews already had sort of a Government. But they weren't yet recognized by the League of Nations. You see, Holocaust only made the recognition of Israel happen sooner. You said: "I am sorry for the death of your relatives;" Thank you. Trust me; I never dance on the roof of my house when I know that Palestinians die. I may not cry about it, but it does make me very sad when innocent Palestinian children and women die. You said: 鈥測es, I believe there was massacres, but鈥?how many???" How many Ahmed? How many? If you know a more precise number, then show it to me, and tell me where you got it, cause I am always up for the Truth. How many? You said: 鈥淗owever, I hope when you are seeing the pictures and reading about your holocaust, just remember that Palestinians also are having loving once and families not only Israelis, Palestinians also loves the freedom and hates the occupation and torture.鈥?br /> Why won鈥檛 you try blaming Hamas for their radical views? Why don鈥檛 you criticize them for pushing your people into this radical state of mind, where 鈥淚t鈥檚 destruction of Israel or nothing!鈥?? And while I am asking you questions, I might as well ask you this: How come, if you voice your opinion in Palestine regarding your approval of peace with Israel, you simply get executed? Also tell me this, why is it that children are being taught to hate ever since they understand anything at all? Why is suicide bombing being promoted in Palestinian music videos? And you are telling me, that I am being brainwashed? You said: 鈥淧alestinians also want to live in dignity and peace, Palestinians also want to build their country.鈥?br /> You don't think that Israelis want for Palestinian to have their own country? Why do you think Jews left Gaza? Can鈥檛 you see that the radicals in Palestine don鈥檛 want a country while Israel exists next door? And what do you suppose the Jews must do, after they just left Gaza, and kassam rockets are being launched at them every day? Tell me. Ahmad, learn to criticize your side of the conflict. I will tell you this, that if it were the Jews who promoted suicide bombings, and targeting civilians, I would support your side hands down! I would be ashamed of being called a Jew. But thank G-d, it isn鈥檛 my side! You said 鈥淜ids are facing their death in Israeli hand everyday, really, they do love the life also, life is not the right of Israelis only鈥︹€?br /> Do you really think that I consider Arab children any less human then Jewish children? I don鈥檛 Ahmed. If I ever had to shoot kassams, I wouldn鈥檛 do it from someone鈥檚 backyard! Especially if there are children living there! If I were being targeted, I would make sure not to get close to my children. This is why children in Palestine die, Ahmed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oefgmtxoc... And Here is Israeli soldier dancing with Palestinian kids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjgyfvojz... Ahmad, please answer my questions, ok? If you need proof for anything I said, please ask me, so I can provide it. It is not a religious issue-it is all political. Each side is guilty of wrongs. There has never been an actual country of Palestine until recently. It was always land occupied by other powers. I have had ''adopted'' families whose families have been there as far back as they can remember............both Arabs and Jews.......the families very close to each other. They both tell me there is room for both-for two different countries. The majority of the people, from both sides, want to live together in peace. Each group must get rid of their own ''hotheads''. With time-------G-d willing-------------------. If war and peace failed. There is only one thing to do, And that is to surounder to our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ and let Him be the LORD of everything, including your life. Then you will know what peace means. May the Lord All Mighty bless you. Moneymaker, I am going to have to hand it over to you for a very well put answer!! There may have been one or two small ideas that I disagree with, but as a whole, it was just brilliant! Well done man! :) Ahmad, you seriously have to stop believing everything they preach to you where you live! Don't live in a nutshell! See what's actually happening-the truth! Hi, Ahmed. This particular question is a very refreshing, comparing to pervious "you started", and "they did so and so" by both pro-Israelis and pro-Palestinians. I'm glad to know that we've passed this level and now deal with the serious stuff: what's next. Frankly, I have no idea. You said that wars failed over and over and I agree. You also said that peace failed, and I partially agree (we did try that several times), but the only acceptable solution that I see is peace. Let's face it: both Israelis and Palestinians will never leave the land (as neither of us should); the only reasonable way on which both sides will "win" is peace. It may take a while and may be tied with lots of painful cessions, but I can't see another option that does not include either of us in the sea. One last point: you fail to understand the meaning of Zionism if you think that the Jewish settlement in Israel is of religious matters only. It's not. Most of the Israelis are agnostic. Put aside Holocaust too; the Jewish settlement in Israel is not about the Holocaust as well, and we don't see Israel as a compensation for it. I suggest you to read some more about the Israeli stance in the conflict. |
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