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Israel should let the gaza fatah refugees a shalter in israel???


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i really dont know.... it's hard debate, couse after all a year ago they blow-up buses full with people , and now they need us...
i think that we should smile twoard's the one's who stand to kill you, if we denay their need of shalter we killing the chanse of peace,
now it's the time to show the greatness of israel forgivness...

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Israel should give assistance to anyone who needs urgent medical attention in an Israeli hospital that cannot be given there.

Other than that, Israel should apply the same amount of security that it always have at the defacto border. Allowing people to come in carte blanche simpy because they are fighting amongst each other is highly risky. And if they did so, rest assured that someone will take advantage of it.

Also, you implication that if Israel does so then that furthers the chance of peace, I highly doubt that will happen. I have history to back me up on that one (see last 14 years).
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The South Lebanese Army fought and died for Israel and they deserved far more respect and support than they got from the Israeli Government after they wothdrew from Lebanon.

The Fatah are terrorists who have spent, under the banner of the P.L.O., the past forty years slaughtering innocent Israeli civilians as well as murdering thousands of innocents in other countries.

Let the terrorists slaughter each other and, when the dust settles, we'll know how to deal with the survivors.

You say "we'll shatter the chance for peace" if Israel doesn't shelter the Fatah terrorists. That's obscenely funny considering that Ehud Barak was going to give them 98% of their demands * INCLUDING JERUSALEM * and the Fatah, led by Yasser Arafat, turned him down, starting another wave of violence and terror against Israeli civilians.

It's a mentality like yours that led six million Jews to go, on their knees, to the cattle cars...... think about that.

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*Note to gaminegirl: Yes, it was exactly that attitude that led to the six million deaths. As for "reading history", Here's some facts:

1.) Hitler published his "Mein Kampf" in 1924, 9 (NINE) years before he came to political power. He outlined, in great detail, each and every the moves he subsequently made so the Jews in Germany had NO excuse to say "Gosh, we didn't see that coming...!"
2.) The Jews and others had every opportunity to fight back, witness the Warsaw Ghetto Revolt that, with a few brave Jews, held back a German battalion for weeks. Other Jews just went quietly to the cattle cars. Some even AIDED the Nazis in identifying and arresting other Jews.
3.) Even with the flat-out honesty and transparency of "Mein Kampf", the Union of German Jews ENDORSED Hitler in his run for the Bundestag in 1936, 12 (TWELVE) years after it was published !

How many post-WWII Jews have read "Mein Kampf"? Have you? If not, then the fairy tale you seem to believe about the attitudes of pre-WWII Jewry will ensure a repeat of that horror.

Read "Mein Kampf" and then we'll talk about Ahmedinijad's little rants about Israel and we can compare them to Hitler's rants about the Jews.

I wouldn't be so quick to criticize someone else's knowledge of history until you've done some brushing up on it yourself.

I would suggest:

1.) "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler
2.) "Adolf Hitler" by John Toland ( the best biography )
3.) "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer
4.) "Inside the Third Reich" by Albert Speer

and, for a non-fantasy background on the Arab-Israeli wars,

1.) "From Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters

and, like "Mein Kampf", another essential book to read is:

1.) The "Quran" by Mohammad

The first iron-clad rule of warfare is,"Know your enemy."
I disagree. They may be fleeing for their lives, but that does not mean they respect Israel's right to exist. The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend after all. I would potentially agree to allow them transfer to the West Bank, but as a group they are still a danger to Israel proper and as such one cannot justify their refuge here.
These "refugees" are the terrorists of one side, who just the previous week were firing rockets at Israel.

They must not be taken in by Israel.

At the other side of Gaza is their border with Egypt, their fellow Arabs.

Will Egypt take them in?


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Firstly, to respond to WittyWeasel's comment: No, it's not because of that attitude that six million Jews, and millions of non Jews were slaughtered in Nazi Germany. They were murdered because the German people either stood by and let it happen, or actively joined in by joining the Nazi party. The Jews and non Jewish victims themselves had no means of fighting back and if you ever bother to consult a history book, you'll know that the Nazis dressed up the concentration camps to look like holiday camps so that even as the victims were being brought in, they had no idea anything was wrong. At some of the camps, specially selected cheerful, holiday-type music was even played, to lull the victims into a false sense of security.

Now to answer the actual question:

Fatah have been busy killing Israelis. But, they did at least agree to talks with Israel at one point, so they are perhaps ever so slightly preferable to Hamas, those murdering lunatics we're all watching running around with faces covered in masks while they kill and slaughter their own people.

Let's face it, Israel will be condemned whatever she does or doesn't do.
There are not Fatah refugees real Fatah are in Gaza waiting the right of Palestine to exist too.
http://www.exposingisraeliapartheid.com/...
http://www.palestiniantragedy.com/......

http://www.amnesty.org/resources/israel_...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/story/0...
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